(Spoilers Extended) Why is Hardhome reminiscent of the Ash, and the blind white fishes in black water found in Westeros and Essos?

2021.10.24 00:38 HumptyEggy (Spoilers Extended) Why is Hardhome reminiscent of the Ash, and the blind white fishes in black water found in Westeros and Essos?

On its way from the Mountains of the Morn to the sea, the Ash runs howling through a narrow cleft in the mountains, between towering cliffs so steep and close that the river is perpetually in shadow, save for a few moments at midday when the sun is at its zenith. In the caves that pockmark the cliffs, demons and dragons and worse make their lairs. The farther from the city one goes, the more hideous and twisted these creatures become … until at last one stands before the doors of the Stygai, the corpse city at the Shadow’s heart, where even the shadowbinders fear to tread. Or so the stories say.
Those caves that "pockmark the cliffs" remind me of Hardhome and its caves.
Hardhome had been halfway toward becoming a town, the only true town north of the Wall, until the night six hundred years ago when hell had swallowed it. Its people had been carried off into slavery or slaughtered for meat, depending on which version of the tale you believed, their homes and halls consumed in a conflagration that burned so hot that watchers on the Wall far to the south had thought the sun was rising in the north. Afterward ashes rained down on haunted forest and Shivering Sea alike for almost half a year. Traders reported finding only nightmarish devastation where Hardhome had stood, a landscape of charred trees and burned bones, waters choked with swollen corpses, blood-chilling shrieks echoing from the cave mouths that pocked the great cliff that loomed above the settlement.
This probably somehow ties in to the CotF's caves, which are might be globally interconnected, which explains the same fish being found in Westeros and Essos in their black waters:
Under the hill they still had food to eat. A hundred kinds of mushrooms grew down here. Blind white fish swam in the black river, but they tasted just as good as fish with eyes once you cooked them up.
[...]
The ships bring casks of freshwater too. The waters of the Ash glisten black beneath the noonday sun and glimmer with a pale green phosphorescence by night, and such fish as swim in the river are blind and twisted, so deformed and hideous to look upon that only fools and shadowbinders will eat of their flesh.
[...]
It was. The other searchers had found Elia, as she and Daemon learned after they made their way back up the slippery slope to the last hall. Their passageway led down to a still black pool, where they discovered the girl up to her waist in water, catching blind white fish with her bare hands, her torch burning red and smoky in the sand where she had planted it.
For them to have no eyes, I assume they exist in places with no light.
I wonder if George ever intended to make sense of it, or if it is just some weird Lovecraftian deep lore.
Can't believe Bran and co ate the stuff. Hope they don't end up with worms with faces in their stomachs.
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2021.10.24 00:38 uru_silko Okay, what is the linguistic situation in the Kingdom of Khura'in?

In contrast to GAA, despite the fact that SOJ also takes place across two countries, a language barrier basically never factors in when our English/Japanese-speaking characters visit the Kingdom of Khura'in. A Khurainese language apparently exists: aside from names, Khurainese intersperse their English with Khurainese phrases like "pohlkunka" and "hap'piraki," Khurainese is also shown to have its own writing system. That said, despite the fact that a Khurainese language exists, and despite the fact that the Khurainese are incredibly proud of their culture and their religion, they almost never seem to use it.
So, why?
Theory #1: The Khurainese actually use Khurainese all the time, but are accommodating Phoenix and other solely English/Japanese-speaking characters
In a lot of countries, especially countries with strong education systems (i.e. Nordic countries) or countries with huge numbers of tourists, a large portion, if not the majority, of the population is English-speaking. Even if they use a local language at home, with friends, or in official capacities, the average person is often perfectly capable of communicating in English to accommodate a foreigner.
This could be the case in Khura'in: the characters actually primarily speak Khurainese, but we never see them do so aside from a few key phrases because Phoenix is there. The only issue with this theory is that English is being used in the courts as well: are we expected to believe that, despite Khura'in's pride in its culture and disdain for defense attorneys, that they are willing to hold court proceedings in English - presumably not an official language - for the sake of a defense attorney?
This theory would also speak well to the Khurainese education system. Even though the characters mention now and again that Khura'in is "behind the world," this level of English fluency in a country that wasn't colonized by the English, not to mention is geographically distant from English-speaking countries, is honestly quite impressive!
Theory #2: Khurainese is strictly a liturgical language, used primarily for ceremonial purposes, but rarely used in everyday speech
This is the relationship the Jewish community largely had with Hebrew prior to the revival of the language in the early 20th century, and to some extent is also the relationship the Arabic-speaking community has with Classical Arabic. Basically, rather than assuming the Khurainese are largely fluent in Khurainese and English and use English to accommodate Phoenix, this assumes that the Khurainese's fluency in their language is actually rather limited: people know key phrases and are evidently able to read it in newspapers and the like, but for the most part, they have another language as their primary language (in this case, English/Japanese), and restrict Khurainese to specific ceremonial purposes. Again, we see this in real-life: many Arabophones understand Classical Arabic perfectly, enough for it to be the sole language used in writing, news broadcasts, and so forth, but in their daily lives they typically use their local dialect, at best interspersing some Classical Arabic terms and phrases when needed.
This would raise the question of how English managed to rise to the top as the dominant language in Khura'in with its unique sociopolitical situation, but with the information we're given in-game it's pretty believable.
Theory #3: There is no Khurainese language - the term actually refers to a collection of local languages so distinct and unintelligible, that English is necessary as a bridge language
Again, this is a situation we see in real-life: the term "Chinese language" actually refers to a number of related, but often mutually unintelligible, languages like Mandarin, Cantonese, Shanghainese, and so forth which share a writing system. There are also plenty of countries with incredibly linguistically diverse populations that rely on English as a medium language, i.e. Nigeria, which has over 525 local languages, some spoken by tens of millions of people (i.e. Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba), yet English is the official language and the main language, often used as a bridge between speakers of two different local languages. With this in mind, it's not inconceivable that the Khurainese speak of a united "Khurainese" language that actually represents a number of related dialects and languages that are so distant from each other, that rather than pick one variety and make it the official language, Khurainese authorities instead used English as a neutral bridge between them. This may explain the lack of a clear phonetic inventory within Khurainese, but also, within the game, there seems to be no real indication of dialect/language differences between Khurainese people.
Theory #4: Phoenix, Maya, and Ema are three of the world's most talented language learners, and picked up Khurainese incredibly quickly
Rather than assume the characters are speaking English just because it's written as such in the game, we can assume that - like in GAA - the characters are actually primarily speaking Khurainese, and whenever we see a phrase written in Khurainese, it's because it's a phrase our characters aren't familiar with, or because it's a phrase with no direct English translation. This interpretation is a bit difficult as it suggests that, in 6-1, Phoenix doesn't know how to say "hi" in Khurainese despite his immense fluency in it, but it would also explain why Phoenix largely seems to have no trouble reading Khurainese signs, newspapers, and books without a translator. With this interpretation in mind, we could potentially assume that Nahyuta's chant - which appears written in Khurainese and is left untranslated - is in an especially archaic form of the language, equivalent to Shakespearean English, which would understandably be pretty hard to understand for a language learner, especially one who concentrated on conversational forms of the language.
Theory #5: This series about cartoon lawyers didn't put that much thought into the sociolinguistic situation of a fictional country
But we all know that's impossible.
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